Comments on: The Lovers’ Journey: Sword Art Online was the best anime love story of 2012 (Was: Despite his Chuunibyou, Reki Kawahara Still Wants To Fall In Love!) http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/2012/12/31/the-lovers-journey-sword-art-online-was-the-best-anime-love-story-of-2012/ You're only as old as you feel. damn... Fri, 30 Jan 2015 22:07:27 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.4.2 By: TheBigN http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/2012/12/31/the-lovers-journey-sword-art-online-was-the-best-anime-love-story-of-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-232918 Fri, 04 Jan 2013 13:13:00 +0000 http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/?p=3771#comment-232918 Referencing your earlier comment on Liz, when reading the light novel, it’s shown that she can handle her own weight if need be. It’s just at the time she meets with Kirito, he’s so much more higher than she is in terms of level. I mean, part of the reason they were able to go on the quest in the first place according to Kirito was that the merchant had to be strong enough to handle themselves should things get rough (no, it’s not because I think you’re giving Liz a raw deal… okay I’m lying. :P).

For me, the first half was much stronger than the second half (as most people have said) and a lot of it was both the desperate struggle for survival (typified by the trump card revealing battle) and the cohabitation of Asuna and Kirito. So when you shifted to a world where people who die aren’t really killed, and where at the end of it all, their relationship in reality apparently doesn’t hold the same significance as it did in the game is kinda :V

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By: otou-san http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/2012/12/31/the-lovers-journey-sword-art-online-was-the-best-anime-love-story-of-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-231844 Thu, 03 Jan 2013 02:21:35 +0000 http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/?p=3771#comment-231844 it might not be immediately, but consider it a new year’s resolution :3

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By: ZabiLegacy http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/2012/12/31/the-lovers-journey-sword-art-online-was-the-best-anime-love-story-of-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-231827 Thu, 03 Jan 2013 01:39:27 +0000 http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/?p=3771#comment-231827 Alot of shows actually got it out of the way early. Ano natsu got it out the way early, Aquarion had at least one or two of the fifty million or so couples confess by midway through the series.

And the shipping bit was a joke. I was making fun of the fact that I was essentially posting to say “uh uh, this couple is soooooooo much better then that couple” I assure you actual couples form with clear cut relationships within the cannon of Aquarion.

Also, watch it immediately. >:{

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By: otou-san http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/2012/12/31/the-lovers-journey-sword-art-online-was-the-best-anime-love-story-of-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-231788 Wed, 02 Jan 2013 23:30:42 +0000 http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/?p=3771#comment-231788 Would you forgive me for two things:

One, hyperbole is the blogger’s strongest weapon (Not sure if this statement is true or hyperbolic).

Two, I guess I forgot about Mysterious Girlfriend X? My memory’s pretty short these days. I’d call them a real couple as well — even if they only uh “got together” sexually in the metaphorical sense, it was a heavily metaphorical anime and it counts. There was a weird dynamic between them, but it was a real relationship and it was interesting to watch.

I didn’t see EVOL… I know, I know, gotta fix that. But if there were ships, I question whether it’s the same thing I’m talking about? I dunno. I still think it speaks to how tired we are (or at least I am) of the standard “finally get together in episode 50, ok show’s over now” scenario that SAO would provoke this reaction from me. In fact, it probably speaks more to that than to the perceived or real “quality” of SAO.

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By: ZabiLegacy http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/2012/12/31/the-lovers-journey-sword-art-online-was-the-best-anime-love-story-of-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-231773 Wed, 02 Jan 2013 22:51:55 +0000 http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/?p=3771#comment-231773 I have to wonder about the use of the line only real anime. I can accept the premise of your argument that despite the shows many, many, many, many, flaws the bare bones of a good romance is properly laid. I’d even agree on a wider level that the general concept for the series is not a bad one.

But to go so far as to say this is the best example of romance utilized in anime this year strikes me as a little….far fetched. This is a year lots of oddly serious attempts at romance were put into anime this year. We saw Mysterious Girlfriend X which provoked a mature discussion of social norms in relation to relationships with quirky and dynamic central couple. We saw the (by anime standards) oddly realistic approach to romance in Ano Natsu. Mainly, my paranoid infallibrile brain immediately started thinking about Aquarion EVOL.

Yeah, this is another one of those posts jizzing about how great Aquarion is. The romances in that show were super special awesome. WHY U NO SHIP THE WAY I WANT YOU TO SHIP? FUUUUUUUUUUUU

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By: otou-san http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/2012/12/31/the-lovers-journey-sword-art-online-was-the-best-anime-love-story-of-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-231745 Wed, 02 Jan 2013 22:04:17 +0000 http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/?p=3771#comment-231745 Not to sound overly defensive of SAO since what you’re saying at the core is basically true and Asuna is the ultimate fantasy/chuuni waifu (she’s the best at everything! Next to me of course!). But I think that’s apples and oranges as Liz didn’t seem to do much of anything else and was totally worthless in battle. Not sure if that’s even a thing that would really happen in an MMO but again, given the situation who would trust their swords to an NPC.

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By: jpmeyer http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/2012/12/31/the-lovers-journey-sword-art-online-was-the-best-anime-love-story-of-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-231667 Wed, 02 Jan 2013 19:15:33 +0000 http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/?p=3771#comment-231667 I supposed it makes more sense when you think about in comparison to how Liz is a blacksmith.

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By: otou-san http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/2012/12/31/the-lovers-journey-sword-art-online-was-the-best-anime-love-story-of-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-231606 Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:16:22 +0000 http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/?p=3771#comment-231606

And said skill (cooking) is only lionized now that it appears in the context of a masculine activity (vidya games) rather than a feminized one (the domestic sphere)

I didn’t really catch that vibe. Also I preferred Tim’s take of cooking being noted for being a quality-of-life skill, rather than a survival one, which actually adds a little perspective to the concept of being trapped in the game for as long as they were.

As for hax specifically developed to turn the 2nd most powerful character into a barely-clothed damsel in distress, I mean sure, I talked about that and it’s the worst thing about it. If I’d written SAO, I probably could have found 9000+ better ways to separate them and have them reunited that didn’t involve her literally in a cage, but I think I’m probably a better writer than Kawahara and I’m an aniblogger.

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By: jpmeyer http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/2012/12/31/the-lovers-journey-sword-art-online-was-the-best-anime-love-story-of-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-231526 Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:09:31 +0000 http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/?p=3771#comment-231526 Man, my mini-rant about how Asuna is ~the perfect waifu~ is now totally incomplete! I now need to include as well:

8) And becomes a damsel in distress for you to save (again, despite being the 2nd most powerful character in the game)
9) Spends time maxing out a skill that basically only serves to please you
10) And said skill (cooking) is only lionized now that it appears in the context of a masculine activity (vidya games) rather than a feminized one (the domestic sphere)

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By: joshspeagle http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/2012/12/31/the-lovers-journey-sword-art-online-was-the-best-anime-love-story-of-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-231247 Wed, 02 Jan 2013 08:11:34 +0000 http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/?p=3771#comment-231247 Totally agree. The feeling of relief I got when I discovered there was absolutely no drama of that sort was ridiculous.

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